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dodo

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May 28, 2001, 5:56:51 AM5/28/01
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Can anyone give me information about the "Hofmann & Czerny" piano ?
The only things I know is that it's a Czech made piano, manufactured at
"Bohemia Pianos" and that the brand name "Hofmann & Czerny" used to belong
to an Austrian firm until 1960.
The information I need is about their current pianos (not the old ones).

Thanks.
Dodo


מלניק פסנתרים

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May 29, 2001, 8:04:14 AM5/29/01
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The name H&C has no indication,in the piano book 2001 USA, you find Bohemia
pianos + Rieger Kloss Consumer rating:insufficient information to rate.If to
buy cz.piano better Petrof the biggest factory in europe making pianos for
Bechstein Group Germany.
Pini
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Radu Focshaner

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May 29, 2001, 5:24:34 PM5/29/01
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"מלניק פסנתרים" wrote:

> The name H&C has no indication,in the piano book 2001 USA, you find Bohemia
> pianos + Rieger Kloss Consumer rating:insufficient information to rate.If to
> buy cz.piano better Petrof the biggest factory in europe making pianos for
> Bechstein Group Germany.
> Pini

Dear Pinchas (at Melnick Pianos),

as a dealer of Petrof pianos you should know more about Hofmann pianos (and the
many other Petrof clones under various names). If in doubt, ask Roman Waxman .
Last time I saw a used Hofmann , it made a very good impression on me (besides
that on the plate it had a sticker indicating that it was conditioned for
tropical climate). On the other hand, in a room filled with Petrof clones (one
Petrof, one "Swedish something", one "Forster") all ranging about 18k to 24k NIS
, there was also a yellow piece of crap (4k) with something resembling the
Hofmann name (Roman will tell you how to recognize a "real" Hofmann by the
number of "F and "N"s in its name) who simply did not make any audible sound.

As a veteran in this ng, I would suggest you not to use the "biggest factory in
Europe making pianos for Bechstein" sale pitch. It won't work. Next , you'll
promote Young Chang for making "fabulous Essex pianos for Steinway".

Hoping to see you in person when I'll be in T.A. I've heard only good things
about Melnick and I have to see the showroom.

Radu

(BTW, when posting to USENET change the headers to english ones)

Isaac OLEG

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May 29, 2001, 5:35:00 PM5/29/01
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Hoffman made at the Langlau factory before Bechstein group buy the firm
where very good pianos , as was Euterpe or Feurich.

Actual ones with the "designed by Bechstein" mention on the plate try to
follow the same standards, but unfortunately, as the factory was dismounted
these pianos have a few problems i.e, very sensitive to seasonal changes ,
not a big "personnality" they are totally different now .

If you find these old Hoffman they are good candidates for restauration
generally.

Isaac OLEG


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Radu Focshaner

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May 29, 2001, 5:55:24 PM5/29/01
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Isaac OLEG wrote:

> Hoffman made at the Langlau factory before Bechstein group buy the firm
> where very good pianos , as was Euterpe or Feurich.

You see, I knew that the "f"s and "n"s in the name make the difference.

Actually, the used Hoffffmannnn I saw - the good one, was made in
Czechoslovakia. I was a fool for not buying it at the time.

Merci beaucoup for the information,

Radu

Larry

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May 29, 2001, 6:04:20 PM5/29/01
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>Actual ones with the "designed by Bechstein" mention on the plate try to
>follow the same standards, but unfortunately, as the factory was dismounted
>these pianos have a few problems i.e, very sensitive to seasonal changes ,
>not a big "personnality" they are totally different now .


I sell them, and I haven't experienced the problems you mention. Certainly not
any kind of sensitivity to seasonal changes any more than any piano would have.

As for the tone, that's a subjective area. You don't like them apparently. I
think they sound very nice. I think some of this is you trying to give it a
very subtle dealer "spin".

Larry Fletcher
Pianos Inc
Atlanta GA
Dealer/technician

Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
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Isaac OLEG

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May 30, 2001, 9:31:25 AM5/30/01
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Hello Larry,

I am sorry but I don't sell pianos others than the ones I rebuild.

We had a debate among a few technicians here about the instanbility problem,
was a few years ago and the reason appears to be in the frame center rib
dimension, a little thin.
I suppose the problem is corrected by now, as when you where tuning these
pianos, the few last notes before the bass where reacting very much with the
basses tuning, and so on with humidity changes (sorry for my english , hope
i a clear).

For the sound, I assimilate them to Grotrian Steinweg verticals of the same
size, of course not really what I prefer but I may admit these are good
pianos enough, but probably a little "basic" in the sound approach.

Third I had a friend who worked in the Langlau factory when Bechstein buy
the whole thing, and the 4 or 5 floors where drasticallly reduced to 2
floors, then parts (sounboards) made outside Germany where used, then the
piano was totally another piano.

Hoffman verticals was concurrent to Bechstein verticals too, they probably
don't have much interest in having better pianos than the Bechstein ...

With best regards.

John S. Gray

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May 31, 2001, 2:51:14 AM5/31/01
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The pianos from Langlau are W.Hoffmann, not just Hoffmann. Presumbaly
there was confusion with Hoffmann & Kuhne in Dresden.

JG

Isaac OLEG

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May 31, 2001, 5:13:59 PM5/31/01
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Oops , sorry.

I will remain with my S&S ...

Best

Isaac OLEG


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Dňa pondelok, 28. mája 2001 11:31:05 UTC+2 dodo napísal(-a):
Hi,
we have one of Hofmann & Czerny grand pianos. Nowdays they are one of Bohemia piano's brands. Here you can read more http://www.bohemiapiano.cz/53-hofmann-czerny-brand-names.html, and about Bohemia piano's history http://www.bohemiapiano.cz/125-history.html.
Hope this is what you were looking for :)
Jana
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